Spooktacular Video Up!

This was taped as part of the 2020 online Spooktacular Cabbie Event.

I discuss my project, my final goal, how you can help, and how it helps you. I then answer questions on a variety of topics including cornsilks, twins, factory codes, and more.

Spooktacular Session Part 1

Time and Topic Index:

3:00 – Explanation of clothing tags and clothing codes
5:30 – Variations in outfits
6:40 – Why this information is useful to you
7:50 – Ultimate goal of the project
9:15 – How you can help
10:40 – HTF kids and valuation – Why I don’t record this
11:50 – Disclaimer
21:40 – Tour of ‘Cabbie Closet’ and how I store clothing
19:05 – Accessories with codes
21:30 – Twins (more at 22:50)
24:40 – Specialty Kids
25:00 – Cornsilk outfits (more in Part 2)
28:20 – Glasses
28:25 – USA Outfits

Spooktacular Session Part 2

Time and Topic index

0:00 – Button duck dresses
1:50 – HTF and Rare discussion continued
4:00 – Cornsilk and Homophone outfits continued
7:50 – How the numbers work, other matrices, and missing numbers
14:10 – Matching factory codes – dolls and clothes
18:00 – Codes on stickers (P, PMI, IC)
20:30 – Value and HTF discussion continued
24:20 – Defuzzing clothes (continues at 27:15)
25:00 – HTF BBB outfits from Thailand (Visit for updated information)
28:25 – How to search the blog (there’s a page too)

Preemie Outfit #11: Romper with Vest

What a dapper young man in his vest and cap!

1984 Preemie Clothing Series Summary

Description

This is a three-piece outfit. It comes with a one-piece short-sleeved romper that is white on top and patterned at the bottom, a sleeveless vest that matches the romper pattern and has two ties at the front, and (generally) a white cap.

Footwear: Regular shoes and socks

Example of preemie outfit #1 that is navy blue and white gingham pattern.

This outfit was most likely sold only from 1984 – 1985. Some packaged versions may have sold later than that.

Version Information

My goal is to find every version of every outfit that was produced. Below is a record of each version of this outfit that I have, up to the date indicated. To understand clothing codes, factories and variations, please refer to the suggested readings below.

Suggested readings: 1st Blog Why do this project?, What are Clothing Tag Codes

If you have an outfit that is not recorded here or does not match my information, (e.g. you have a 11 B that is pink and white gingham, not green and white gingham) I would appreciate hearing from you. Information is best sent in the form of pictures. For details on the pictures required, jump to Taking Clothing Tag Pics.

Variations

> Mimic Outfit: #711 – This outfit is structurally identical to outfit #11 except that there are no ties on the vest. It doesn’t come with a bonnet but did come with knit booties instead of shoes and socks. Special thanks to Sarah Galt for first bringing this outfit to my attention.

Picture courtesy of a Francesca Pilgrim Smart

> So far, the P and FD factory outfits have the clothing tag in the vest. The OK, WW, and SS factory outfits have the clothing tag in the romper.

> I have only one example where the hat is made of the same pattern fabric as the romper, an FD factory outfit. All the rest are plain white.

Picture of preemie outfit #11 which is a light teal blue and white gingham, however, this one, has a matching hat instead of a white hat.

Preemie Outfit #10: One-Piece

A one-piece outfit that’s perfect for play time.

Main graphic that has a mint green background and black text that says "#10 One-Piece". it has a picture of an AA doll wearing a blue and white version of the outfit.


1984 Preemie Clothing Series Summary

Description

This is a two-piece outfit.

  1. One-piece outfit. It has a white yoke and sleeves while the remainder of the outfit is patterned, generally vertical stripes but not always. There’s lace around the yoke, sleeves, and leg holes. There is a small white ribbon bow in the middle bottom of the yoke.
  2. Bonnet. It is the same pattern as the majority of the outfit with a lace frill running inside the bonnet about 3″ back from the front edge.

Footwear: Regular shoes and socks

Sample of outfit #10, 10C OK,  showing both pieces. It has a white yoke and sleeves and the rest is yellow and white striped. The bonnet is yellow and white striped.

This outfit was most likely sold only from 1984 – 1985. Some packaged versions may have sold later than that.

Version Information

My goal is to find every version of every outfit that was produced. Below is a record of each version of this outfit that I have, up to the date indicated. To understand clothing codes, factories and variations, please refer to the suggested readings below.

Suggested readings: 1st Blog – Why do this project?, What are Clothing Tag Codes

If you have an outfit that is not recorded here or does not match my information, (e.g. you have a 10C P that is pink and white stripes, not purple and white stripes) I would appreciate hearing from you. Information is best sent in the form of pictures. For details on the pictures required, jump to Taking Clothing Tag Pics.

Variations

> There are differences in the lace based on the factory. The OK and WS factories used the same lace, but the SS lace used different lace on the one-piece but the same lace as the others on the bonnet.

> Mimic Outfit: # 710 – This outfit is almost identical to Preemie outfit #10. I cannot see any differences except that some may have come without the small bow. This came with knit booties I think, not shoes. I’m unsure as I do not have tags for those outfits.

A picture of mimic outfit #710. It has a pink blouse and pink sleeves, the remainder is pink and white striped.

> 25th Anniversary Preemie outfit: Appears almost identical to Preemie outfit #10. Visit the link for more information.

Picture of a 25th Anniversary preemie in box with a lemon blonde tuft and purple eyes. The outfit is pink and white striped.

Happy Thanksgiving to my Cabbie Family

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy (Canadian) Thanksgiving everyone! I have much to be thankful for this year ; your support and encouragement are near the top of the list. May you experience health and happiness with your family and friends (in whatever format is safe for you).

Maple leaf graphic source: https://www.stickpng.com/img/download/589b1f662096a705e895cd6b

Part 2: The Code Addition

What did they add to the code and why?

As noted in Part 1: Tag Codes Continued: A 2nd Theory, I originally thought the first number of the code indicated the year the outfit came out.

E.g. 501 came out in 1985, 630 came out in 1986, 720 came out in 1987

This is true for some outfits, but not for all.

A lot of tags had #- in front of the code and I did not know what it meant, until now.

I believe that starting in 1986 and continuing until 1990, those tags with a #-, indicate the actual year the outfit came out. You can’t use the first digit of the code for these outfits.

This theory answers a few questions.

  1. It confirms that the first BBB series came out in 1986.
    These outfits were among the first to be coded differently.
                         
  2. Why would they put out a second series of BBB outfits in 1986?
    They didn’t, the 670s – 680s series BBB outfits came out in 1987.
                       
  3. Why are there no 1989 outfits with 900 numbers?
    Because they put them all in the 100s! The 1989 Designer Line Kids, Sippin’ Kids, and all the transitional and package outfits that came out in 1989 are numbered 9- 1_ _. I have no idea why they chose to do this.
                       
  4. What do the tags with 0- mean?
    Following the pattern, these are outfits that came out or were slated by Coleco to be produced, in 1990. There are very few outfits with these codes, and all of them are Transitional Hasbro clothing tags. They may have been the last outfits designed by Coleco, or the first designed by Hasbro. Who knows.
                       

Having said all that, not all the factories used this coding innovation equally.

Photos in 1 – 3 courtesy of Jodi’s Punk Patch.

Update: For more information about 0 – tags, and where they fit into the transitional period, see The Transitional Period – A Summary.

Why should you care . . . .

If you have an outfit that has an 8- before the code, you know that it belongs to a kid from 1988 or 1989, nothing earlier. If you have a BBB outfit that has 6- before the number, it has to go on a 1986 BBB kid.  If you have an outfit with a 9- or a 0- , barring some exceptions, it could have come on a Coleco kid or a Hasbro kid as it is a Transitional Outfit.

Preemie Outfit # 9 -Romper with Bubble Bottom

The preemie version of the bubble romper with an adorable bonnet.

Main graphic with a baby blue background, black text that says "#9, Romper with bubble bottom" and a picture of a doll wearing a yellow version of the outfit and shoes.


1984 Preemie Clothing Series Summary

Description

This outfit has two pieces.

  1. Romper. It has one pattern/colour at the top and a solid colour on the bottom. The bottoms and short sleeves are ‘bubbled’. There are lace caps at the shoulders. There is a waist ribbon that is attached at the back on both sides and then ties at the front.
  2. Bonnet. It has a very large lace ruffle that matches the sleeve caps. The colour matches the colour of the bottom half of the romper.

Footwear: Regular shoes and socks

Picture of preemie outfit 9B P. It has a pink top with pink rose buds and pink bottoms and bonnet.

This outfit was most likely sold only from 1984 – 1985. Some packaged versions may have sold later than that.

Version Information

My goal is to find every version of every outfit that was produced. Below is a record of each version of this outfit that I have, up to the date indicated. To understand clothing codes, factories and variations, please refer to the suggested readings below.

Suggested readings: 1st Blog – Why do this project?, What are Clothing Tag Codes

If you have an outfit that is not recorded here or does not match my information, (e.g. you have a 9B P that is green and white gingham, not pink with pink buds) I would appreciate hearing from you. Information is best sent in the form of pictures. For details on the pictures required, jump to Taking Clothing Tag Pics.

Variations

> So far, there are no observable differences between outfits produced at various factories.

> B-Series outfit: #B504 – Blouse with sleeve caps and bubble romper overalls and matching bonnet. Although it is a two-piece outfit, it looks like outfit 9 when on the dolls.  

Picture of outfit B504H. It has a purple blouse, a pink CPK logo on the chest and white bottom with multi coloured hearts. The bonnet matches the bottoms.
Photo courtesy of Jodi’s Punki Patch.

> Mimic Outfit: #Unknown – This outfit looks almost identical to Preemie outfit #9, except it has a white bow at the neck, no bonnet, and came with knit booties. I believe it is a 700s mimic preemie outfit (709 or 713), but I need clothing tag pictures to confirm this.

Preemie with lemon yellow looped tuft in a green box liner with pink Birth certificate. The top of the outfit is white, the bottom is pink and white gingham. It has white knit booties.
Photo source unknown.

> 25th Anniversary Preemie outfit: This outfit appears almost identical to Preemie outfit #9. For more information visit: 25th Anniversary Outfits

A brown eyed preemie doll inside a 25h anniversary preemie box. The outfit is similiar to 9B
Photo source unknown.

Post 1985 Tag Codes and Locations

The continuing saga of the clothing tag codes . . . what happened in 1986? Why are West Hartford, Amsterdam and Gloversville so important?

By going through and comparing the appearance of clothing tags, I discovered that something interesting happened in 1986 and early 1987.

The original theory about the numbers used in the clothing tag codes was that the first digit of the codes from 500 onward indicated which year the outfit came out.  Jump to: What’s With the Numbers?

E.g. 501 came out in 1985
       630 came out in 1986
       720 came out in 1987

A Question . . .

This works most of the time, but some things did not fit the pattern. For example, half of the Talker outfits are 690s, and the rest are 700-710. If the original theory held, they should all be in the 700s as Talking Kids came out in 1987. Another example is the 670s – 680s BBB series. BBB kids came out in 1986; why would they put out a second set of clothing almost immediately? As it turns out, they didn’t!

In 1986, Coleco seems to stop rigidly adhering to the original rule that they had in 1985. They still used it, but not all the time. I do not know why, but the change corresponds to some kind of upheaval in the Coleco Company itself.

Possible Answer . . .

At some point in 1985 or 1986 they started producing tags which printed the location of the Coleco Company in the US. The first tags said West Hartford, CT. Then sometime in 1986, the address changed to Amsterdam, NY. By sometime in 1987, they stopped using the CT tags entirely.

If your tag says CT, the outfit is most likely older than one which says Amsterdam, NY. They were likely made in the same place, but the tags were changed. It’s interesting to note that it was around this time that the company’s major financial problems started to become public. It is also interesting to note that some 500s Series outfits have West Hartford, CT tags so they must have been produced into 1986 although, they started production in 1985.

Then in 1989, the company address on clothing tags changed again, from Amsterdam, NY, to Gloversville, NY.

Clothing tag from outfit 9-167A, OK factory. Copyright date 1988 and located in Gloversville, NY.

Coleco had owned buildings in both locations for decades. (Coleco – The Official Book.pdf, p. 33) I theorize that as company assets were closed to save money, the main offices and official registered location of the company was moved from place to place.

1986 and Onward

1986+ clothing codes are all over the place. There were some 1987, and 1988 series that follow the original theory (E.g. Splashing kids, Toddlers). However, it was no longer used consistently. More and more outfits show up with ‘odd’ codes.

In some cases, they put 1987 outfits in the 600s (Example A), in some cases they chose a different hundred for the series (e.g. 400s) (Example B), in other cases, they created an entirely new matrix (Example C), and for still others, they didn’t use a code at all ( Example D)!

Another Question

Where are the 1989 outfits? There are no 900s outfits, so how were they coded? I had a theory, but I had no evidence for it. Now I do. To find out, continue to Part 2: The Code Addition

Preemie Outfit #8 – Sundress with Bonnet

A pretty sun dress for a pretty preemie.


1984 Preemie Clothing Series Summary

Description

There are 3 pieces to this outfit

  1. Cotton pinafore-type sundress. The sleeves, dress hem, and peter pan collar are one colour, and the remainder of the dress is another. A line of lace runs around the bottom of the pinafore section and around the neck. There is a white satin bow in the front middle just below the collar.
  2. Bloomers that match the colour/pattern of the sleeves.
  3. A bonnet with a bow on top and lace around the fringe. It is the same colour/pattern as the ‘pinafore’ section of the dress.

Footwear: Regular shoes and socks

Picture of preemie outfit #8 in three pieces, the bonnet, dress and bloomers. It is mint green with green rose buds and white pinafore area.

This outfit was most likely sold only from 1984 – 1985. Some packaged versions may have sold later than that.

Version Information

My goal is to find every version of every outfit that was produced. Below is a record of each version of this outfit that I have, up to the date indicated. To understand clothing codes, factories and variations, please refer to the suggested readings below.

Suggested readings: 1st Blog – Why do this project?, What are Clothing Tag Codes

If you have an outfit that is not recorded here or does not match my information, (e.g. you have an 8D OK that is pink with pink buds, not yellow with yellow buds) I would appreciate hearing from you. Information is best sent in the form of pictures. For details on the pictures required, jump to Taking Clothing Tag Pics.

Variations

> There are variations in the lace based on the factory. I have found that the P factory uses one lace, the OK and CC factories use another, and the FW and SS factories use another.

> I have found one example of this outfit with a velveteen bow. I am unsure if this was added later, or if it’s original. I do not have any information for it. Do you have anything similar?

Preemie outfit 8 with an off white dress with yellow flowers and whit edging and a matching bonnet. it has a gold velveteen bow on the front.

> Mimic Outfit: #708 – This outfit is structurally identical to outfit #8 but doesn’t come with a bonnet. In addition, the pinafore is the coloured/patterned section, instead of the sleeves, bloomers, and collar, which are white. The pinafore section fabric has flower cutout patterns in it.

Preemie Outfit #7 – Dress with Bloomers

Dressing like the big kids!

Main graphic with a pink background and black text that says "#7 Dress with Bloomers". It has an AA preemie wearing a blue version of this outfit and regular shoes.


1984 Preemie Clothing Series Summary

Description

There are three pieces to this outfit.

  1. Matching bloomers with lace at the leg holes. The lace matches the lace at the sleeves.
  2. Matching bonnet with lace frill. Both types of lace are used in the frill.

** I have found an exception where the lace at the yoke matches the lace on the rest of the dress. It is an FD dress, but I have a second FD dress that is ‘correct’. At this point, this appears to be a factory fluke.

Footwear: Regular white shoes and socks

This outfit was most likely sold only from 1984 – 1985. Some packaged versions may have sold later than that.

Version Information

My goal is to find every version of every outfit that was produced. Below is a record of each version of this outfit that I have, up to the date indicated. To understand clothing codes, factories and variations, please refer to the suggested readings below.

Suggested readings: 1st Blog – Why do this project?, What are Clothing Tag Codes

If you have an outfit that is not recorded here or does not match my information, (e.g. you have a 7F OK that is pink, not mint green) I would appreciate hearing from you. Information is best sent in the form of pictures. For details on the pictures required, jump to Taking Clothing Tag Pics.

Variations

> There are variations across factories in the lace patterns. The OK and P factory used the same lace. The FD factory uses different lace entirely. The SS factory appears to use the large yolk lace from the OK set and the smaller lace from the FD set. These trends were determined using a small sample size and are most likely slightly inaccurate.

> Mimic Preemie Outfit: #707 – The outfits are structurally identical to outfit #7 except that they do not have lace at the leg holes and do not come with a bonnet. They also come in a variety of colours that the #7 outfits did. (e.g. white with multi-coloured hearts)

Picture of a version of outfit 707 that is white with multicoloured heart shaped polka dots. Has a watermarket that says "Kats Cpk"
Photo courtesy of Kat Perhouse.

PTP: Occupation Rompers

“Casual one piece play outfits for your Cabbage Patch Kid”

These adorable rompers were manufactured by the WW factory and came out in either 1984 and/or 1985. I believe they only came out packaged, never on boxed kids. They did not come with any other items like shoes or socks.

There are six different rompers.  Although they each have an official name, most people refer to them by the occupation they portray.

Official Name                    Unofficial Name

Dr. Petvet                           Vet
Goody Gardener                Gardener
Fire Fighter                       Fireperson
Handy Carpenter              Handyperson
Splashy Painter                 Painter
Sassy Sherrif                      Cowboy